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		<title>Comment on The Art Of Worship Flow Part 2 by felie madhuku</title>
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		<dc:creator>felie madhuku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats motivational guys  thanks Scott and  chris.As worshippers there are things that we should take note of like we have to understand that we are here to guide pple into prayer ;and not just to stand in the spotlight and act accordingly.the way we react on stage (gestures) have their own meanings so we need to be very carefully so not to drove pple away</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats motivational guys  thanks Scott and  chris.As worshippers there are things that we should take note of like we have to understand that we are here to guide pple into prayer ;and not just to stand in the spotlight and act accordingly.the way we react on stage (gestures) have their own meanings so we need to be very carefully so not to drove pple away</p>
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		<title>Comment on Worship Teams on Stage: Part 3 by chrislindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrislindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your thoughts, Neil. I think the underpinning of everything we&#039;re talking about is this: 
I believe God made the church flexible enough to take slightly different shapes in different cultures. The timeless message of Jesus, his death and resurrection will always stay the same, but worship forms may vary slightly.  The church in Corinth (with its agape feasts) looked slightly different from the church of Jerusalem which looked slightly different than the church in Laodicea. Likewise, a church in southeastern USA is going to look slightly different than Jinja, Uganda. Different songs, different languages, different meeting places, different set of cultural values, and they all play a role in how worship looks and feels. I&#039;d be careful not to pigeonhole God to a form.  

I&#039;m not convinced that God wants us to become just like the 1st century church. I think He wants us to be the 21st century church. That&#039;s why He put us here TODAY. May we use the resources and metaphors of today (as Jesus did in the Gospels) to help make clear the His message of hope, salvation, and the kingdom of God to today&#039;s generation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your thoughts, Neil. I think the underpinning of everything we&#8217;re talking about is this:<br />
I believe God made the church flexible enough to take slightly different shapes in different cultures. The timeless message of Jesus, his death and resurrection will always stay the same, but worship forms may vary slightly.  The church in Corinth (with its agape feasts) looked slightly different from the church of Jerusalem which looked slightly different than the church in Laodicea. Likewise, a church in southeastern USA is going to look slightly different than Jinja, Uganda. Different songs, different languages, different meeting places, different set of cultural values, and they all play a role in how worship looks and feels. I&#8217;d be careful not to pigeonhole God to a form.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that God wants us to become just like the 1st century church. I think He wants us to be the 21st century church. That&#8217;s why He put us here TODAY. May we use the resources and metaphors of today (as Jesus did in the Gospels) to help make clear the His message of hope, salvation, and the kingdom of God to today&#8217;s generation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Worship Teams on Stage: Part 3 by Neil Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve read a lot about the first century church. I have read how these early churches met in homes, hid in caves, etc.  No stages. No chairs.&quot;

What have you been reading?

It seems your point is that the first century church wasn&#039;t performy (I made that word up) but today&#039;s is, by comparison. Therefore we should charge ahead with the show.

The first century church was more an offshoot of the synagogues than what we might call house churches. It definitely was NOT associated with the Temple cult (to which most of the worship Psalms apply).

When the church in Ephesus could no longer meet in the synagogue they met in a lecture hall (Acts 19:9).

I appreciate your zeal. There is much you are articulating that swells up from your emotional center. Be careful. Emotions are good but they can get you in trouble. Don&#039;t let them master you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve read a lot about the first century church. I have read how these early churches met in homes, hid in caves, etc.  No stages. No chairs.&#8221;</p>
<p>What have you been reading?</p>
<p>It seems your point is that the first century church wasn&#8217;t performy (I made that word up) but today&#8217;s is, by comparison. Therefore we should charge ahead with the show.</p>
<p>The first century church was more an offshoot of the synagogues than what we might call house churches. It definitely was NOT associated with the Temple cult (to which most of the worship Psalms apply).</p>
<p>When the church in Ephesus could no longer meet in the synagogue they met in a lecture hall (Acts 19:9).</p>
<p>I appreciate your zeal. There is much you are articulating that swells up from your emotional center. Be careful. Emotions are good but they can get you in trouble. Don&#8217;t let them master you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong: Aftermath and Expectations by mark lioret</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark lioret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in answer to your questions..  yes.. 

your experience sounds a lot like the one i had in new orleans, many years ago, when the original Hillsongs team (darlene, rueben morgan, marty sampson, etc) totally turned my spiritual world upside down... i had never seen or experienced anything like it... i had never wept in worship, never seen or participated in such unabashed, exuberant, awestruck wonder and worship of our Lord before... and it literally changed me, and my wife.. 

but then you come back to your local congregation... and i know for me, i&#039;ve fought with the feeling - &#039;oh i wish we could grow to be like...&#039;   

i know in many churches of Christ, outward expressions are kind of frowned upon, or people are &#039;uncomfortable&#039; with them..   


 i think by your bringing such a large group from a relatively small congregation, will help in opening your worship up... 

sorry, no real answers from me just now, i&#039;m just kind of quickly throwing out thoughts that 1st came up - i&#039;ll dig in a little this evening and try to work with ya on some answers, because this is a very important topic worth digging into..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in answer to your questions..  yes.. </p>
<p>your experience sounds a lot like the one i had in new orleans, many years ago, when the original Hillsongs team (darlene, rueben morgan, marty sampson, etc) totally turned my spiritual world upside down&#8230; i had never seen or experienced anything like it&#8230; i had never wept in worship, never seen or participated in such unabashed, exuberant, awestruck wonder and worship of our Lord before&#8230; and it literally changed me, and my wife.. </p>
<p>but then you come back to your local congregation&#8230; and i know for me, i&#8217;ve fought with the feeling &#8211; &#8216;oh i wish we could grow to be like&#8230;&#8217;   </p>
<p>i know in many churches of Christ, outward expressions are kind of frowned upon, or people are &#8216;uncomfortable&#8217; with them..   </p>
<p> i think by your bringing such a large group from a relatively small congregation, will help in opening your worship up&#8230; </p>
<p>sorry, no real answers from me just now, i&#8217;m just kind of quickly throwing out thoughts that 1st came up &#8211; i&#8217;ll dig in a little this evening and try to work with ya on some answers, because this is a very important topic worth digging into..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong: Aftermath and Expectations by Roger Scully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Scully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris, thanks for this post. We are just beginning to experience worship this way as we are healing from the bondage legalism. We are going to a Casting Crowns concert July 14, which we are really excited about. Don&#039;t ever take for granted what so many of us have been missing for so long. God bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris, thanks for this post. We are just beginning to experience worship this way as we are healing from the bondage legalism. We are going to a Casting Crowns concert July 14, which we are really excited about. Don&#8217;t ever take for granted what so many of us have been missing for so long. God bless you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong: Aftermath and Expectations by Anne Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this Chris.  I always enjoy reading what you have to write.  I am sure it was an amazing experience.  I think you are right about our worship. . .at least where I am now.  We spent too much time on what worship should look like and make it too technical.  Too much time spent on what we are looking for or what WE need rather than what we should do for God.  Thanks for the eye opening thought and the time you spend to share with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this Chris.  I always enjoy reading what you have to write.  I am sure it was an amazing experience.  I think you are right about our worship. . .at least where I am now.  We spent too much time on what worship should look like and make it too technical.  Too much time spent on what we are looking for or what WE need rather than what we should do for God.  Thanks for the eye opening thought and the time you spend to share with us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong: Aftermath and Expectations by Brad Schrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Schrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 &quot;Avalanche&quot; is the song that grabbed me off that album.
#2 I think expectation is what sets events like a Hillsong conference (or even a church of Christ youth conference) apart from our normal gatherings. We come to those things expecting God to do big things, and he does. I think the same holds true for alternative weekly gatherings too.

I think this is the key: &quot;Are we too comfortable learning about Him on a Sunday morning and not interested in meeting with Him?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 &#8220;Avalanche&#8221; is the song that grabbed me off that album.<br />
#2 I think expectation is what sets events like a Hillsong conference (or even a church of Christ youth conference) apart from our normal gatherings. We come to those things expecting God to do big things, and he does. I think the same holds true for alternative weekly gatherings too.</p>
<p>I think this is the key: &#8220;Are we too comfortable learning about Him on a Sunday morning and not interested in meeting with Him?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Art Of Worship Flow Part 2 by Roger Scully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Scully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the rest of this, Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the rest of this, Chris.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Art Of Worship Flow Part 2 by chrislindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrislindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good clarification, Scott. I do enjoy times of silence- as long as they are intentional! My beef is with the awkward, prolonged times that can be easily avoided with a little planning and creativity. Now, planned prayers in silence or silent reflection can be extremely powerful for our churches. I&#039;ve been planning on talking about ideas in incorporating &quot;good&quot; silence soon. I&#039;ve love to hear ideas on what you guys do at LouisvilleCOC! 

-Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good clarification, Scott. I do enjoy times of silence- as long as they are intentional! My beef is with the awkward, prolonged times that can be easily avoided with a little planning and creativity. Now, planned prayers in silence or silent reflection can be extremely powerful for our churches. I&#8217;ve been planning on talking about ideas in incorporating &#8220;good&#8221; silence soon. I&#8217;ve love to hear ideas on what you guys do at LouisvilleCOC! </p>
<p>-Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Art Of Worship Flow Part 2 by Scott Perreault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Perreault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts Chris.   Transitions have been a much-ignored part of worship assemblies for a long time.   Flow can quite often determine whether we worship or we simply &quot;go to church.&quot;  Blocking songs together in the same key, singing in keys identical to vids (as you mentioned), and making sure other worship leaders like pray-ers or the leaders of Communion are making their way onto the stage before the song or vid or whatever ends.

One thing I would add to your suggestions however, is to rethink the desire to eliminate silence.  God is pretty big on silence.  While some silence can be awkward, which is what I think you are saying, some is necessary.  Worship assemblies not only need to be places where people are engaged in an action, it is also necessary to have some time to stop and be quiet.   I like to integrate planned moments of silence in worship.  Particularly during Communion.  While I have no issues with oohing or singing or other things during Communion, simply meditating during the bread and cup is invaluable.

The bottom line is that everything that a Leader  and his co-leaders do needs to be deliberate.   It drives me nuts when a man is scheduled for prayer and he is sitting all the way back of the sanctuary and we have to wait for him to lumber up the aisle to the stage.  The Lord&#039;s spirit will have His way with the assembly, but we are responsible for putting words on people&#039;s lips, so our prep and deliberation ought to be well thought out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts Chris.   Transitions have been a much-ignored part of worship assemblies for a long time.   Flow can quite often determine whether we worship or we simply &#8220;go to church.&#8221;  Blocking songs together in the same key, singing in keys identical to vids (as you mentioned), and making sure other worship leaders like pray-ers or the leaders of Communion are making their way onto the stage before the song or vid or whatever ends.</p>
<p>One thing I would add to your suggestions however, is to rethink the desire to eliminate silence.  God is pretty big on silence.  While some silence can be awkward, which is what I think you are saying, some is necessary.  Worship assemblies not only need to be places where people are engaged in an action, it is also necessary to have some time to stop and be quiet.   I like to integrate planned moments of silence in worship.  Particularly during Communion.  While I have no issues with oohing or singing or other things during Communion, simply meditating during the bread and cup is invaluable.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that everything that a Leader  and his co-leaders do needs to be deliberate.   It drives me nuts when a man is scheduled for prayer and he is sitting all the way back of the sanctuary and we have to wait for him to lumber up the aisle to the stage.  The Lord&#8217;s spirit will have His way with the assembly, but we are responsible for putting words on people&#8217;s lips, so our prep and deliberation ought to be well thought out.</p>
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